Real RVers talk about their RV worries for 2023

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Welcome everybody to the RV
podcast. This is episode four 14.

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And this week we talked,

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what real RVers think is
gonna happen in the next 12

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months.

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Hello everybody.

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I'm Mike Wein and this is my lifelong
traveling companion and my bride,

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Jennifer. And we are indeed traveling
and we are traveling in our brand new

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20, 23 leisure travel vans, FX, FX,

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unity, FX model. And, um,

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it's kind of like a homecoming to us
because we are in this very model four

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years ago. This is what we, uh, came
back with a little over four years ago.

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And, uh, we liked it. We
kept it for two years.

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We tend to turn our RVs quickly so we can
have experience with lots of different

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models. And we wanted to try
the, uh, Ford transit chassis,

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cuz that was just really taking
off about, uh, about two years ago.

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So we had our, uh, this Ralph
vents wonder and we sold that.

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And uh, we had ordered this.

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We didn't announce at the time we ordered
this about 17 months ago and we got it

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even a little earlier than some people
cause it's like a two to three year wait,

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depending on how you have it equipped.
Um, but we got it because, uh,

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we are the transportation
company we transported it

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from the, uh, Hershey RV
show, which just ended.

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We spent a week there and
this was one of the models,

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the display models and therein,

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we learned something very valuable.

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Well the general public can be very
rough. these display models.

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Our first FX.

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Was also a display yeah. Was.

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A display,

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but it was at a trade show and it didn't
get near the wear and tear that this

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one did, but it's all good. You
know, whatever people break damage,

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you can get it fixed.

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But you know,

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probably it had enough people
in here that would equal what

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we, the two of us and Bo would do in
three years. you know, um,

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and it held up, well, one of the
doors needs adjusting and uh,

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a cabinet needs adjusting, but
that's really about it. Uh,

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we were like angry parents, you know,
you gonna take it a kid in that thing.

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Don't let 'em stand on this sofa. I was
thinking, I didn't say it uh,

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but we, um, uh,

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save the transportation cost cuz we
are hauling this now back to Holland,

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Michigan. And there, we will officially
buy it this week from our dealer,

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which is Holland motor homes in
Holland, Michigan. And they, uh,

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then go through and prep it and just like
just like a new delivery. But we, uh,

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spent last night in it and we, we are
right now. You might hear the rain.

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We're kinda waiting for
some rain to end. Um,

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we spent the night in a service
center, a rest stop, uh,

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on the Ohio turnpike where they have
actual RV spots. They have about, uh,

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nine or 10 spots for
RV's 20 bucks a night.

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Now we didn't have electric. I.

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Don't know. Well we, yeah,
yeah. Some are 30 amp.

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I don't know if they have 50 amp.

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We pulled in at close to midnight
cause we left the show like at 7, 6 37.

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So it was quite dark by
the time we got here.

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And we were disturbing
everybody we didn't mean to,

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but we were trying to be quiet.

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So the side I backed into,
uh, only had like a 15,

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20 amp service. And um, since we have uh,

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400 Watts of solar and two, uh, battle
born, uh, lithium batteries, we,

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we were fine. We just Bo dock. Uh,

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but it was our first night in it
and we didn't have pillows and uh.

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I forgot.

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But we may do.

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It's hard. Okay. I gotta get some
mercy here. The day that we left,

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we're packing for a week. And uh,

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we were having an open
house in just a couple days.

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Our house, we put our house, we.

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Put our house on.

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The market sale. We we're
getting, we, we know you've been,

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we've been telling you what we've
been looking for property and machine.

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We'll tell you more about that.
The deals kind of pending.

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It's still.

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Pending. I'll just say this.

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We found 10 acres on the Southwest
side of Michigan near the wine country.

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I'll tell you, we'll tell you
a whole lot more about it one.

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But anyway,

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what I'm trying to say is I had
other things on my mind and I didn't

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oversee your packing, which normally,
you know, I'm like, don't forget this.

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Don't forget that I need.

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Oversight.

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No, we had such mass confusion
as you know, trying to, uh,

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give things away to charity,
trying to empty closets,

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trying to find a space for
everything. So anyway, I forgot the.

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Pillows packing and preparing for the
RV show and uh, but uh, we may do,

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oh.

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We may do great.

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Yep. Uh we're. It helps
to be really tired too.

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it was a.

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We had RV super bag. I knew we had
the RV super bag. So we used that.

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We separated it wound one section
up and used it as a pillow.

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And the other section we covered up with
and I had the sheets from the RV super

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bag. So it was a great bed. It.

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Was. And we woke this morning
to the rain and thunder and uh,

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it's kind of nice. Uh,

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I walked into the rest area and got my
dunking donuts coffee and uh, we're kind.

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Of now you didn't get any donuts.

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I didn't get any donuts.
Nope. I wanted one.

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That's when you came with me.

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Well, that's good. I didn't
that's good. I did. Um,

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people keep asking us about the
show. It was a, it was a big show.

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I don't know if it was as well
attended as last year. It was close.

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Saturday was a phenomenal, oh.

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Saturday was.

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A zoo, but the rest seemed pretty
manageable. Mm-hmm um,

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most of the sales people, they all were
happy. They seemed to sell a lot of RVs,

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had 1500 new 20, 23
model RVs on display. Um,

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we did a, kind of a, our
video tour of the show, uh,

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this past week.

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So you can find that on our YouTube
channel and in today's episode,

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we are going to spend a lot of time
with the people we met. And uh,

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I don't know how to skirt the issue
other than to say that there is a lot of

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uncertainty out there,
the economy inflation,

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post pandemic worries, all that
kind of stuff, interest rates.

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Um, man, uh,

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the interest rates are
pushing 6% now for an RV.

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So we have to forget about
all that and look for the.

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Positive. And uh, but we ask a
variety of real RVs, you know,

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uh, people who really are out there doing
it, not just making them to sell, uh,

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we asked them what they thought
the next 12 months would be like.

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And I think you'll find
it real interesting.

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You've gotta work with what you got. Yeah.

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So we know what the issues are
and you gotta work with it.

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So anyway, we will obviously, uh,
be sure on you more of this, uh,

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this FX let's answer one other
question. Everybody asks, do,

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what do we do with our fifth wheel? Well,

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we are a two RV family of
his and hers. no,

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of both of ours. Uh, the fifth wheel.

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We absolutely love our
32 foot fifth wheel.

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Should we have a contested guess? Which
belongs to his and which belongs to her?

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Yeah, no, I think they're both the.

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Same. They're both pretty. Yeah. They're
both equal. We, I, I like em both.

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Yeah. And I've bonded
with your truck. Yes.

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Jennifer drove the truck.

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Like 260 or 270 miles
yesterday. That is a,

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I can see why you like that truck.

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I love the truck. Yeah.

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I mean, it's larger than what I'd like,

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but it's a nice vehicle
to ride in and to drive.

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And uh, yep. So we were,
caravaning it back to the show.

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We still got some more to go
today. So yes, we do have two RVs.

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Uh, and how do we use them? Well,

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the fifth wheel is sitting at our property
in Tennessee right now and we will be

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down there in about three weeks.
Yeah. For our gathering, uh,

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at the Buffalo river, we've got, uh,
one of our gatherings, our meetups, uh,

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about a hundred plus people heading
down there to, uh, spend, uh,

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most of a week, uh, exploring
middle Tennessee with us.

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So we're excited about that.

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And we'll be spend spending all of
our time in the fifth wheel there,

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we will probably drive this. And, uh,

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our daughter who's part of our team will
probably stay in this, uh, while we're,

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while down there working.

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And then we'll take this to Florida and
then come back and pick up the fifth

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wheel.

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And hopefully then we'll be able to tell
you all about our property in Michigan,

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cuz the fifth wheel will be
going there as well. Uh, but we,

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we see the fifth wheel as
like, as you said, um, a,

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a cabin on wheels and um,
it's just really nice.

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It's just a nice base
camp. And then we use the,

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the little motor home here to scoot
around for shorter trips and um,

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to do some exploring as well. Uh, we
can tow a vehicle with us by the way.

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It's one of the reasons we
went back to the sprinter,

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the Mercedes-Benz sprinter,
3,500 diesel. Love.

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It. Are we gonna be able to, uh,
tow the uh, fifth wheel with this?

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No.

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Because I was just wondering cuz if we
drove this to Tennessee and then we'll

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bring in the fifth wheel home. Oh are
you gonna make me caravan forever?

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Yeah. I gotta figure that out. Well, yeah.

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We gotta, we gotta figure out the details.

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Yeah we will. But the
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we can leave the fifth wheel there too
in Tennessee, as long as we want. Um,

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I hope we didn't confuse you. Cause I
in answering the question, I'm confused.

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We didn't get much sleep last night.

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But we are having a good
time. Yeah. So stay with us.

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You'll meet some real RVs and you'll
learn what they expect over the next 12

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months. Tired of overcrowded
campgrounds competing for reservations,

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paying high fees for sites. Well,

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ownership is an emerging trend in
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It was for us, Jennifer and I bought
some land just west of Nashville,

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Tennessee in,

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in incredible collection of mountaintop
properties called the Woodlands at

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Buffalo river. These are five to
62 acre properties. Build a house,

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a cabin out buildings or
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$79,900. Your property,

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your way a hundred percent ownership.
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You can landscape garden, bring your pets,

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build what you want to there's high
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It's a great place to make your
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reservations. Ready whenever you want.

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They're selling these on October
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from $79,900,

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off the grid longer. Let
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they just dropped into the existing
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everything Jennifer and I swear
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Hey what's all right.

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Welcome back time now for
the interview of the week.

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And if you can tell we're at the Hershey
RV show and that's where we're gonna do

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the interview week. I see we talked
to a whole lot of people this week.

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Have we talked to 'em about.

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The.

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Future of RV?

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What they think this next year is gonna
bring any surprises that they can see

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lingering out there or.

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You know,

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there's all this uncertainty coming
on the heels of COVID and um,

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I don't think we can,
we can sugarcoat that.

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There's there's a lot of
people who are out there are,

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are wondering if this is the time to buy
what it means for their travel. So, uh,

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we thought we had talked to real
RVs and find out what they think.

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So let's listen, uh,

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to some of the people that we met
and who offer a lot of great insight.

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Jimmy and Lisa Cox are friends
from fine us camping. Yes. Okay.

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Yes we are. So, Hey,

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why do you think we'll all be in a year
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industry? Well.

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I know we're gonna be traveling still.

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We will be on the road,
but I see it as I'm,

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you know, with fuel prices,
being what they are,

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prices in general being what they are.

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I think it's gonna make people
stay places longer, not travel.

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As long as far as we go as.

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Frequent, you know, not,

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not stay a couple of days and then hit
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fuel. So you'll stay in a one spot
longer and not move as often. Um.

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I think it's gonna help the campground
worlds cuz the campground people are

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gonna stay two and three and
four weeks more than just a week.

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And they're they're
going to the next place.

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So well, right. Cuz you'd
still be camping, right?

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You'd just be moving place to
place. So you already have,

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we have found that you already have that,

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that stay built in you you've
budgeted for that. It's a,

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it's kind of a constant, but fuel.
You can kind of control, you know,

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you don't have to travel this frequently
so you can cut back a little cost

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there. Um, I'm not sure for like
families with kids and stuff.

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That's a whole nother.

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I think they're gonna basically, I
think everybody's gonna stay still.

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People are gonna have to stay
still in one spot a little more.

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We're hoping everything changes.

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We're hoping everything
changes and it goes different.

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We loosen up.

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A little bit. We have noticed
here at the Hershey show,

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it is slower last couple days. So.

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I feel that it is slower than yours past.

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You think it's the economy
more than anything else?

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I think the economy is, is a big key.

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And I think the interest rates have
changed. A lot of people buying.

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I've talked to a couple people now and
they have said that the interest rates

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are a little bit higher, which is scar,

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which makes the payments a
little bit higher. So well.

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And they're going back up.

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Plus the campers are more expensive.
So what we got two or three years ago,

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you can't buy now.

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Cause everything's more expensive.
Groceries are more expensive.

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Everything's crazy. More expensive.

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So a little uncertainty. Yep.

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Very, very much. We're all nervous.

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A lot of, yeah. We're.

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All nervous. A lot of
uncertainty, you know,

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you just have to control what you
can cuz you can't control it all.

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So just you have to.

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Control what you can, but get out
there and do it. That's the key.

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You gotta get out there and have don't.

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Quit. Don't quit.

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Hi, I'm Susan Burnett.

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Where are you from Susan?

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Uh, from Minnesota at the moment.
Okay. Moving to Colorado Boulder. Well.

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That's a great place to go. Let
me ask you a question then. Yeah.

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In light of everything that's happened,

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you know the COVID
pandemic inflation all the

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uncertainty of today. Yeah. Where
do you see everybody in a year?

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And how's it gonna
affect the RV lifestyle.

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That I have no idea. Cuz I'm just
new. I don't even have a rig yet.

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That's why I'm here. I'm
learning everything I can.
And so I just don't know.

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I retired as a nurse and so
healthcare's changing dramatically.

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People are leaving and you know, retiring.

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I'm just looking to travel around.

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I wanna see the redwoods
before they burned down. So.

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So what are your biggest worries?

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My biggest, what.

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Concerns worries.

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Um, safety is one number one,

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but there's a lecture on that.
So I'm gonna go to that. Um,

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I'm traveling by myself.

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The financial part of it is a big
worry just because I'm changing over

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from being retired, to being
on a budget and you know,

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which I was on a budget before,
but you know what I mean? Um,

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and I don't know. I, I don't know.
What I don't know is the problem.

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That's why I'm here. Think.

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That you're encouraged about getting
an RV and going so you must think

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that it's a good choice.
A good thing to do.

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You must feel confident
that it's gonna be okay.

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And if it isn't you put the
breaks on and go into different.

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Direct that's right. That's
right. I have a home base.

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So if it doesn't work out, I'll
just go back to my home base. So.

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But it's gonna work out it.

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Work out. Yeah. But I, you know,

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I'm from Minnesota and I know you guys
are in Michigan and you still go up to

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Michigan.

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So it's like maybe I'll come to one of
your events hopefully someday days. So.

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All right. We'll be lucky.

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I know. I'm just so glad I ran
into you and it's like, I'm.

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So glad you ran into us too.

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Hey, here we are with our
friend mark ke, but mark,

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the question we're asking everybody has
to do with the uncertainty that we kind

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of find ourselves in as a nation these
days, where do you see us all in a year,

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particularly as it affects the
RV industry, the RV lifestyle.

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So I respond to that with a story.

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My wife and I went full time in
2009 during the last financial

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crisis, we sold everything we
own bought an RV, hit the road.

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The reality is life is short.

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People only have so much time
to go travel and do things.

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A lot of people are retiring.
They're still traveling. Now.

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It was just in Yellowstone a week
and a half ago place wasn't sold out.

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It wasn't crazy,

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but the campgrounds are full and
people had smiles on their faces.

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So in the end, people are in a
camp. How they go about doing that?

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Are they buying new RVs,
use RVs? Are they in 10?

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I don't know the answer to that.

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I just know that people want to travel
and enjoy the RV and camping myself.

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So you see that continuing in? Oh yeah.

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If somebody who started during
the last financial instances,

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do do things really
level out as they say or.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, if you
think about it, I mean, Mike,

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you've been in the industry long,
you know how in from 2012 to 2019,

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we're on this uphill cycle, COVID
had this massive boost of campers.

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But on the other side of that,
we're still on this upward cycle.

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What you're gonna see change though,
is you're gonna see RV, new sales,

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shipment, numbers dip, and
that'll be the big news,

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but that's missing the main trend,
which is a whole bunch of RVs were sold.

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Those people are still using those RVs
they're they might not be traveling 1500

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miles for a trip, but they're going
50, 60 miles. They're camping.

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They're enjoying in the end, you gotta
do something in the stress and the,

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in the anxiety of the
world you need to get away.

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And camping is the most affordable
way to do that next to sleeping in an,

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a tent in your yard.

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Bruce Howard, up in borough, Maryland.

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And I'm Chris sip Howard high.

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Where do you think we'll all be in a
year? How's that all gonna affect the RV,

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uh, lifestyle, uh, in the
whole RV industry? What,
what's your thoughts on that?

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Well, personally,

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I believe that people have gotten really
complacent in the pandemic of being

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able to have the opportunity
to work from home.

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And I think people are
actually loving it. You know,

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if you have an opportunity to go on
the road, you know, and still work,

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still have an income coming in,
still relax and have a life.

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I think people will take
advantage of it. Now I think they,

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that year's gonna allow
people to kind of, you know,

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do a reset with their finances. Um,
they'll probably be able to, you know,

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look into, you know, earlier options
for retirement and stay on the road.

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You know, I think this was a,

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a time for us to really see how it
feels to work remotely, live remotely.

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And people had an opportunity to kind
of stay at home and realize there's a

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lot that we miss when the world closed.

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So people want to get back out and
they want to see the world now.

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And our being is just a great way to go.

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Yeah, Chris, you have to say you agree a
hundred percent, but uh, your thoughts.

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I think a lot of people had a chance to
work remotely that didn't have a chance

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to work remotely prior to the
pandemic and also a chance to look

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at lifestyle and lifestyle
changes that they can make, um,

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with what they were looking
to do. So with the pandemic,

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little bit of inflation and
things that are gonna happen,

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maybe you might not get the big RV. You
may get something a little bit smaller,

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but I don't think it's gonna affect the
marketplace in the sense of the vacation

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opportunities. They're going to
exist and exist in larger numbers.

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Maybe in a few parks may have a few
less people there, um, at times,

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but I do think it's gonna continue
to move forward. Uh, just fine.

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Now, what do you see is the biggest
challenge for camping this next year?

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What do you see? Uh,

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I see in larger corporations coming in
and buying small mom and pop campgrounds,

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and then immediately
the rates are increased

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50% or better. And I think
that's gonna be tough for our,

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our veers to actually, you know,

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enjoy this lifestyle on
a, on a reasonable budget,

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but they're making it tough for us.

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What do you see people
paying these days? And.

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Um, I'm seeing from 80 to, um,

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I believe my wife saw something
going up to well over the $200 mark

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from $80. So 80, 60, wow. You're
talking three, 400% Marco.

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There was a campground that used
to be used at, on a beach front.

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So it was about a hundred dollars a night
and it's gone up to over $300 a night

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to be at the same site on a weekend.

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And that's just unaffordable
for $300 a night.

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I'd rather get a hotel and not
have to clean my own bathroom.

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and they didn't
do any big changes or.

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Anything like that. And they took
it from just a mom and pop name. So,

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and they changed it to a
corporation name and added resort,

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but there wasn't anything different.

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That's.

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The shame, same amenities.
Mm-hmm no
upgrades, no painting. No,

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just.

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Just the name actually come.

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Yes. Bodak get my batteries. .

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I'm Andrew Bransky. We currently
live in New Hampshire, Concord,

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New Hampshire.

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And Andrew, you an RV.

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Tech. I am an RV tech. I work,
I work for, uh, campers in,

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in Meramac New Hampshire.

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So, um, where are we gonna be in a year?
What's it gonna mean to the RV? Uh.

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Well I've already noticed a
slowdown in purchases, uh, but uh,

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a lot more influx still on customer
repairs and stuff like that.

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So there's still people doing it.

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What I think is actually gonna happen
is that bubble that was been blowing up

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for so long is finally going to burst
as far as a lot of new people getting

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more purchases, more RVers.

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I think the people that want RV will
continue to RV find out ways to RV and the

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people that won't will hopefully
still try to figure that out. Um,

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but in the long run, you know,
keep maintaining your units,

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keep trying to figure out, keep
up on the tech, keeping up, uh,

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keep up on how to figure out how to keep
doing it if that's what you really want

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to do. Um, and I'm sure there's
gonna be an influx of, uh,

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used RVs coming up with all the people
that don't want to do it anymore.

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So hopefully that'll inspire people to
continue to do it at a cheaper way. Yeah.

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That's what I think.

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So you need, you're just
gonna make the best.

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Of it. Yeah. Make the best of it. Do,
do what you can to stay on the road,

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if that's what you want to do and
just keep maintaining your RVs,

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keep doing your monthly checkups, that
kind of stuff. And if you have to,

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you can downgrade to keep doing it
until there's an opportunity for you to

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upgrade again. Um, like I said,

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I still think there's gonna be an influx
of views RVs after that bubble bursts.

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And it might give other people an easier
way to get into it or an easier way to

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maintain their lifestyle financially.
If that's what their problems are.

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See, there was no sarcasm.

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I, I kept it in for you.
I really did. I'm just, Ugh.

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That's why I'm breaking a sweat. .

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As you just heard, we're
all gonna carry on.

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There's a little bit of fear and
trepidation, but where our views we're.

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Gonna go. Yep. Um,

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and I thought some of the more
encouraging things were that even, uh,

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I think it was mark Kepp.

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We talked to who started full-time
RVing during the last, uh,

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recession that the country went
through. And, uh, he, uh, he says,

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you know, he's not gonna worry about
this one either. Cuz like you say,

449
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451
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world.com. Welcome back. And now it's
time for the questions of the week.

467
00:25:02,020 --> 00:25:02,850
Now. Uh,

468
00:25:02,850 --> 00:25:07,280
we did a lot of meet and greets here
at the Hershey RV show this past week.

469
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:10,720
And there were a lot of
questions that people have.

470
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:15,320
So we recorded a few of them and
here they are with our answers.

471
00:25:15,850 --> 00:25:19,760
Uh, Dan and fab we're from long island.
This is our first trip to the RV show.

472
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800
And um, as budding, uh, uh,

473
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,640
adventurers who want to film
their own adventure, uh,

474
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,240
we're curious how much content do you
shoot versus how much makes it into a 30

475
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,880
minute format show? Aha.

476
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:34,960
You can never shoot too much content.

477
00:25:35,290 --> 00:25:39,640
So you notice I'm shooting this
I don't know if I'll use it, but uh,

478
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,520
I may end up using some of these
questions in one of our live feeds or

479
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:46,800
in our podcast. Um,

480
00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:51,720
I don't ever go anywhere
without a camera. I shoot, I,

481
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,520
I have had three cameras that
we've been shooting here. Um,

482
00:25:56,290 --> 00:26:00,280
we have a video that'll be on
tomorrow. It's about 25 minutes,

483
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,520
30 minutes long, maybe
a little longer. Uh,

484
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:06,480
and I probably shot,

485
00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:11,440
how long do you think three
hours worth of video for that?

486
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:16,440
So I added it down. Um, you
know, we, you see a shooting on,

487
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:21,400
uh, cell phones, the uh, like the
apple I iPhone now. Oh my goodness.

488
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,480
The quality of that is is better
than, than almost anything. So, uh,

489
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,080
I'm always shooting with that and um,

490
00:26:29,010 --> 00:26:33,080
there's no hard and fast rule
you, you know, you kind of, and,

491
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,280
and the more you do the better, it, it,
it better you get and the easier it is,

492
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,720
but yeah. How.

493
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,553
Long did it take you?

494
00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:43,560
I don't mind walking. I really don't mind.

495
00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:48,520
Well, our whole life has been,
you know, that we've been.

496
00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:52,960
Yeah. Yeah. Mike, uh, the
media person, he worked on, uh,

497
00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:57,680
NBC for 18 and a half years.
So people recognized him, me.

498
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,320
I took me a little while
to get used to it, but I,

499
00:27:00,470 --> 00:27:04,240
I taught exercise classes and
I taught different classes.

500
00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:06,480
So I was used to being
in front of people. Ah,

501
00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:10,920
so it kind of came natural to me. I
didn't know there was event, but Mike,

502
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240
I think it's harder doing
this for him to, uh,

503
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,160
shoot more because he's used to our
traveling all different countries and all

504
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,160
over the states for freelance
work, where you are precise,

505
00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:26,360
you know exactly what you want
and you wanna shoot in sequence.

506
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:29,880
And so it's a little bit harder I
think, to stop and say, oh yeah,

507
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,800
I've gotta get the B roll. Yeah,
I've gotta get the other things.

508
00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:36,120
I, I used to be a press photographer.
So it was like that it was rush, rush,

509
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,360
rush, take 400 pictures just
to give the newspaper three.

510
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:44,280
So that's why we're asking the question
because it's gonna be tough narrowing

511
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,680
down the best shots, the best videos now.

512
00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:48,640
But you mentioned B roll and it's like,

513
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,520
don't forget to get the entrance to the
state and don't forget to get the name

514
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000
of the park and you work with a drone
and do you not work with a drone? I mean,

515
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560
there's so many people
doing amazing content. It's.

516
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,040
Always embarrassing when you forget to
get somebody's name and where they're

517
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,520
from, you know.

518
00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:05,480
And that happened. It happened in,
in what we're shooting tomorrow. So.

519
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Rule everybody should have a name tag.

520
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:08,400
But you don't all.

521
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,440
The time everywhere you.

522
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,480
Go. My advice is, uh, before you even
start kind of think about what you wanna,

523
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,520
what the story is.

524
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,720
You wanna tell now the challenge is you
don't know this story cuz you're not

525
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,560
there yet. Right? Uh, so when
we came into this show, um,

526
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:28,000
in past years we've done 20 RV reviews.

527
00:28:28,450 --> 00:28:32,120
We go in and we'd shoot, 'em
open every drawer and it became,

528
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:35,400
it became pretty repetitive for
us, but people just love it.

529
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,280
They wanna see it because imagine,
but it's just so exhausting. So, uh,

530
00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:42,080
we wanted do something different
this year. So we said, well,

531
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400
we're gonna just talk about a couple
of trends that we're noticing.

532
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,200
And then we're gonna just talk to
people that we meet like you guys.

533
00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:53,680
So that's the video that we
came in. We're gonna shoot.

534
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,320
And that's the way we went. We identify
one quick trend, which was here,

535
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,040
which was, if you remember a few
years ago, the big trend was, uh,

536
00:29:03,170 --> 00:29:05,520
to put, uh, uh.

537
00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:06,480
Lightweight.

538
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Lightweight trailers on the road. So
you could tow a lightweight trailer.

539
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,920
You didn't have to have
a big, super duty truck.

540
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Never had all those trailers, light.

541
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,160
Ribbon, you know, as you see 'em
ultra lightweight, wind goes by,

542
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,600
they're all going back and forth. You
know? So the trend is now that way with,

543
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640
with fifth wheels, which, you
know, are, are certainly the,

544
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:29,040
the nicer and the more luxurious
of all the, the RVs out there.

545
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:34,440
So the, we, we, we knew we wanted to do
a lot with this 29 foot, uh, Arcadia.

546
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800
So we did a tour that,

547
00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:40,200
and the other trend that's out there
and it's one that we kind of lived and

548
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,320
we've seen it now is, uh,

549
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,560
more and more people who
started off with like van life,

550
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,520
the van life movement class, B's
huge growth over the last four years.

551
00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:50,360
And then because.

552
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Of COVID, COVID really
helped get a little van.

553
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:56,520
Oh my gosh. Yeah. But if you've ever
traveled much in a little van, anybody,

554
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,760
you have a class B out there,

555
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,040
just a small B have you've ever traveled
in the class B you realize real quickly

556
00:30:02,590 --> 00:30:05,600
that you want a little, you
like a little bit more room.

557
00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:07,800
You like to be able to bring
a few more things with you.

558
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,640
And so we see people moving up
to the class CS, the B pluses,

559
00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:17,320
uh, even even larger. So that was
the second trend. And then, um,

560
00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:21,680
we decided that there's a whole
lot of uncertainty out there, uh,

561
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,960
among people, you know, when you talk
to the industry, everything's wonderful.

562
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Everything's wonderful. But it's
uncertain. You guys are feeling that,

563
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,120
are you not, I mean, um,
fuel prices next week,

564
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,960
the fed raises the interest rates
again. Um, what does this all mean?

565
00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:41,720
So we've been talking to other,
well, what does this mean?

566
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:45,880
What do you guys think it's
gonna be like in a year? And, uh,

567
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,080
we've always found for content that
those are stories that people really are

568
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,240
interested in because
real RVs really know,

569
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,000
rather than, you know, the
industry experts kind of. And, um,

570
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,680
so we've talked to, everybody will
probably find some of you and ask you,

571
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,160
what do you, what even this morning,

572
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800
what do you think it's gonna
be like in the year? Uh,

573
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:10,240
and I think everybody feels
it's just very uncertain times,

574
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:15,440
but there's only so much
time left. You know,

575
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:21,320
I personally have realized I don't have
the time to waste. And, um, you know,

576
00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:25,840
I'm not gonna do another COVID
lockdown. I am gonna go out.

577
00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:26,920
Uh, RV.

578
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Says, I wasted one year in my life. I.

579
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Did, I did. And I think
I've not that many years.

580
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:33,200
I think we're hearing that
from a lot of other people.

581
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:35,480
What do you guys think
really? You know, what do you,

582
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,720
what's your thoughts on it? What,

583
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,200
what do you think the next
year is gonna be like.

584
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:42,320
My husband's gonna retire next year. Yes.

585
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:45,680
We have a 30 foot travel
trailer. And what,

586
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:50,640
what we decided was we'd go with a
fifth wheel because we've heard that

587
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,040
they're much more maneuverable.

588
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,880
And you said that you didn't even feel
it behind you. So that's very nice.

589
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,320
That's a.

590
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Danger for me.

591
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,160
That's right. Yeah. I know
it's danger for everybody, you.

592
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Know, it's but.

593
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,800
So going as easy stop.

594
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,040
We're excited about that
new chapter in our lives,

595
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,040
but we wanna go small.

596
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,200
Mm-hmm what are
you looking for? Do you think?

597
00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:11,680
Uh, well, you're the one that
you got was on our short list.

598
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,840
We were looking at a, a
brand design, two 60 RD,

599
00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:17,640
and then we were looking at
yours. We just saw a Cougar,

600
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,200
which is brand new here,
uh, uh, this week. So, uh,

601
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,560
Stu doesn't even have a listed on our
website yet except for the Hershey thing.

602
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:25,270
Sure.

603
00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:25,760
Well,

604
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,680
thanks to all the folks we met and the
questions and the great conversations we

605
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
had. It was very encouraging. Uh,

606
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,720
thanks to all the people who answered
our questions for the interview.

607
00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:38,680
We just had a great time here at
the show. As we every year, it,

608
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,840
it has been fun.

609
00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:44,320
So that's the podcast and we invite
you to visit an RV show near you.

610
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,520
The fall RV show season is now begun.

611
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:51,040
If you have a question or a comment
we'd love to hear from you just use our

612
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200
personal email, Mike and
jen@rvlifestyle.com to next week.

613
00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:57,600
So long happy trials.